JMMCSearchCalReunionESOFeb2011 < Jmmc/Software

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---+!!<center>JMMC/ESO Calibrator Workgroup - Feb. 16 2011 / 14h-16h</center>

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---++!! Contact Informations
   * Grenoble
      * room : Belledone
      * server : visiolaog.obs.ujf-grenoble.fr (@IP 152.77.114.26)
      * phone : 00 33 476 635 508
      * contact : Sylvain Lafrasse (sylvain.lafrasse@obs.ujf-grenoble.fr)
   * Nice
      * room: new teleconf. room
      * server: IP 192.54.174.200
      * phone: ?
      * contact: Olivier Chesneau (Olivier.Chesneau@obs-azur.fr)
   * Garching
      * room : L130
      * phone : +49 89 3200 6669
      * contact : Markus Wittkowski (mwittkow@eso.org)
      * server: videoconf. will be initiated from here

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---++!! Agenda
---+++ Status of the updates for the next release in June 2011
   * JMMC Catalogue:
      * diam_vk values to be present for all stars, also for those that are present in the Borde or Merand catalogues;
      * fixing of the problem of "faulty diam_vk computed from wrong magnitudes coming from Bordé" mentioned in the email from S. Lafrasse, dated 3 Dec 2010 17:41:54;
         * JMMC concludes to leave Bordé & Mérand catalog, and only provide stars diameters that comply to SearchCal criterias when available;
         * ESO proposes to crossmatch with Bordé & Mérand to flag provenance at Calvin stage (quality flag : 1 means JSDC, 2 means Bordé/Mérand, 3 means MIDI);
      * addition of the MIDI consortium calibrator catalogue;
         * JMMC : 61% coverage, 3 problems needing developments:
            1 low pointing accuracy;
            1 tight binary rejecting (not based on magnitude differences);
            1 large error bars on V & R magnitudes -> use AKARI for N band;
         * ESO : show JSDC if available, plus MIDI entries;
      * agreement on a long-term plan to move from ESO catalog format to an updated JSDC (first decipher which columns are missing to do the trick);
      * Next release schedule:
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   * ESO CalVin Interface:
      * fixing of a bug in the computation of the shadowing, and addition of delay line limits;
      * addition of the seeing-dependent limiting magnitude for AMBER;
      * enabling of the LST/HA option;
      * enabling of the search by visibility;

---+++ Discussion on possible longer-term improvements
Compared to our original science requirements document, the following items are not yet or not fully implemented. Should they ?

   * how to transpose JSDC to faint calibrators (needed in the 1.5 coming years) despite the actual interactive mode and the huge amount of candidate stars at those magnitudes ?
   * relax spectral binary filtering on magnitude differences (5, but dependant on instrumental configurations)!
   * Spectral type, luminosity class, temperature, surface gravity, LMN magnitudes in the catalogue:
      * information on quality as astrometric reference star;
      * information on quality as spectral calibrator (cf. Sect. 3 of the science requirements document);
   * Use of a bad calibrator list and feedback to the catalogue (cf. Sect. 3 of the science requirements document):
      * ESO Quality should provide us with newly flagged calibrators through BadCal;
      * JMMC should filter ESO calibrator catalog through BadCal;
   * Information on previous observations and measured quality of a calibrator (cf. Sect. 4 of the science requirements document):
      * ESO Archive starts to provide products, and should then be able to do it in the future;
      * JMMC stresses the problem between bad calibrators and misbehaving instruments;
   * display of feasible LST range for science target and calibrators (also search for desired LST range) cf. Sects. 5&6;
   * "The new tool shall make use of modern visualizing capabilities and be designed with ease of use in mind" (cf. Sect. 7) Are we there ?
      * ESO states that the user friendliness of CalVin has already greatly improved lately;
      * JMMC emphasizes functionality over new developments;

---+++ The science requirements document stated
   * "Strategy to find calibrators and to estimate their diameters shall be discussed and regularly revised" How do we do this ?
      * JMMC is happy with our semester videoconferences rhythm to keep everybody up to date on the progress on each side;

---+++ Short informal outlook on our collaboration?


-- Main.SylvainLafrasse - 16 Feb 2011
Topic revision: r4 - 2011-11-23 - GuillaumeMella