---+!!<center>JMMC/ESO Calibrator Workgroup - Feb. 16 2011 / 14h-16h</center> ---++!! Participants <!-- |Main.XXX|%ICON{choice-no}%| |Main.YYY|%ICON{choice-yes}%| --> |*Group Members*|*Attending*| |Pascal BALESTER|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Christian HUMMEL|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Isabelle PERCHERON|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Klara SHABUN|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Markus WITTKOWSKI|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Main.OlivierChesneau|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Main.PierreCruzalebes|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Main.GillesDuvert|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Main.SylvainLafrasse|%ICON{choice-yes}%| |Main.GuillaumeMella|%ICON{choice-yes}%| ---++!! Contact Informations * Grenoble * room : Belledone * server : visiolaog.obs.ujf-grenoble.fr (@IP 152.77.114.26) * phone : 00 33 476 635 508 * contact : Sylvain Lafrasse (sylvain.lafrasse@obs.ujf-grenoble.fr) * Nice * room: new teleconf. room * server: IP 192.54.174.200 * phone: ? * contact: Olivier Chesneau (Olivier.Chesneau@obs-azur.fr) * Garching * room : L130 * phone : +49 89 3200 6669 * contact : Markus Wittkowski (mwittkow@eso.org) * server: videoconf. will be initiated from here ---++!! Action Lists %ACTIONSEARCH{ web=Jmmc.Software topic=JMMCSearchCalReunionESO?.*}% [[Jmmc.JmmcSearchCalActionListArchive][Archived actions]] ---++!! Agenda ---+++ Status of the updates for the next release in June 2011 * JMMC Catalogue: * diam_vk values to be present for all stars, also for those that are present in the Borde or Merand catalogues; * fixing of the problem of "faulty diam_vk computed from wrong magnitudes coming from Bordé" mentioned in the email from S. Lafrasse, dated 3 Dec 2010 17:41:54; * JMMC concludes to leave Bordé & Mérand catalog, and only provide stars diameters that comply to SearchCal criterias when available; * ESO proposes to crossmatch with Bordé & Mérand to flag provenance at Calvin stage (quality flag : 1 means JSDC, 2 means Bordé/Mérand, 3 means MIDI); * addition of the MIDI consortium calibrator catalogue; * JMMC : 61% coverage, 3 problems needing developments: 1 low pointing accuracy; 1 tight binary rejecting (not based on magnitude differences); 1 large error bars on V & R magnitudes -> use AKARI for N band; * ESO : show JSDC if available, plus MIDI entries; * agreement on a long-term plan to move from ESO catalog format to an updated JSDC (first decipher which columns are missing to do the trick); * Next release schedule: %ACTION{ closed="2011-04-07" closer="Main.SylvainLafrasse" created="2011-02-16" creator="Main.SylvainLafrasse" due="2011-03-01" state="closed" uid="001407" who="Main.ESO" }% Provide CfP parameters. %ACTION{ closed="2011-04-07" closer="Main.SylvainLafrasse" created="2011-02-16" creator="Main.SylvainLafrasse" due="2011-04-01" state="closed" uid="001408" who="Main.SylvainLafrasse" }% Provide first catalog beta. %ACTION{ closed="2011-11-23" closer="Main.GuillaumeMella" created="2011-02-16" creator="Main.SylvainLafrasse" due="2011-06-01" state="closed" uid="001409" who="Main.SylvainLafrasse" }% Provide final catalog. * ESO CalVin Interface: * fixing of a bug in the computation of the shadowing, and addition of delay line limits; * addition of the seeing-dependent limiting magnitude for AMBER; * enabling of the LST/HA option; * enabling of the search by visibility; ---+++ Discussion on possible longer-term improvements Compared to our original science requirements document, the following items are not yet or not fully implemented. Should they ? * how to transpose JSDC to faint calibrators (needed in the 1.5 coming years) despite the actual interactive mode and the huge amount of candidate stars at those magnitudes ? * relax spectral binary filtering on magnitude differences (5, but dependant on instrumental configurations)! * Spectral type, luminosity class, temperature, surface gravity, LMN magnitudes in the catalogue: * information on quality as astrometric reference star; * information on quality as spectral calibrator (cf. Sect. 3 of the science requirements document); * Use of a bad calibrator list and feedback to the catalogue (cf. Sect. 3 of the science requirements document): * ESO Quality should provide us with newly flagged calibrators through BadCal; * JMMC should filter ESO calibrator catalog through BadCal; * Information on previous observations and measured quality of a calibrator (cf. Sect. 4 of the science requirements document): * ESO Archive starts to provide products, and should then be able to do it in the future; * JMMC stresses the problem between bad calibrators and misbehaving instruments; * display of feasible LST range for science target and calibrators (also search for desired LST range) cf. Sects. 5&6; * "The new tool shall make use of modern visualizing capabilities and be designed with ease of use in mind" (cf. Sect. 7) Are we there ? * ESO states that the user friendliness of CalVin has already greatly improved lately; * JMMC emphasizes functionality over new developments; ---+++ The science requirements document stated * "Strategy to find calibrators and to estimate their diameters shall be discussed and regularly revised" How do we do this ? * JMMC is happy with our semester videoconferences rhythm to keep everybody up to date on the progress on each side; ---+++ Short informal outlook on our collaboration? -- Main.SylvainLafrasse - 16 Feb 2011
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